Does the Snyder Cut really reward the ‘worst of the worst’? Is this a dangerous precedent?

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Barry Schwartz
Barry Schwartz
5 months ago

These movies are too big to fail. The Josstice League made it impossible for sequels to be made. WB needs to make sequels to these movies or AT&T loses.

Clay Page
Clay Page
5 months ago

The one who pays is the boss.
The one who gets paid is an employee.
So, is it toxic fans or toxic employees?

H.H. Knight Reviews
H.H. Knight Reviews
5 months ago

Fans would not need to be so "toxic," if the studios would get their film finished well the first time.
I know that filmmaking is difficult, but there are so many decisions that make me feel like Michael Jordan. "Stop it. Get some help." 🤦

CMNDR Carter
CMNDR Carter
5 months ago

"That it teaches them that the louder and angrier they are, the more likely they are to get what they want." So they don't want their opposition doing exactly what they've been doing?

Hero of Kush
Hero of Kush
5 months ago

It's 50/50 some people might actually like those movies you might not like. But I don't think they should be able to say you just don't see the vision.

And the MCU is pretty lame. If it's not the avangers movies they all feel the same. IE following the same plot points and characters.

And before anyone says the MCU movies are good and you just miss the point. Take a second to think about it. You going to act like The Last Jedi defense squad.

earth star
earth star
5 months ago

Listening to the core audience of paying customers is now setting a dangerous precedent? Okeeeeeeey.

Asong A
Asong A
5 months ago

Sorry to intrude on these comments, but I have an assignment to get a video to 1Ok views by the end of the week. The video is a joke/short about the Snyder Cut (imagery is based around the original Justice League film thought) that I threw together.

Views, likes, and shares are appreciated if you can spare some! Sorry to have ruined your comment experience though, thank you.

The video is the latest upload on my channel.

Seymour Lewis
Seymour Lewis
5 months ago

They really hate capitalism that much.
God forbid a company try to satisfy their customers.

MC's Creations
MC's Creations
5 months ago

The client is always right.
Those big companies should remember that.

Michele Pio Antonio
Michele Pio Antonio
5 months ago

I think the Snyder cut was not a bad thing, I mean, it was not made from zero, it was a project not finished the proper way, it was something that the fans knew was there and they wanted it, so i don't see it as a bad thing. It's just a company listening to their fans, at least for once

Uncompetative
Uncompetative
5 months ago

7:30 "All those fans will buy whatever they put out there…"

No they won't. I was a fan of Star Wars and I am boycotting all Disney products, parks, and services.

Bold Fox
Bold Fox
5 months ago

I really hope these complainers have never worked in retail

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes
5 months ago

Is it just me or is kind of the main thing businesses do trying to please customers and make as many sales as possible? As a wise man once said, ‘It doesn’t sound like you really got the gist of the game.’

Kenneth Satria
Kenneth Satria
5 months ago

Honestly if DC and WB had their shit together from the start we wouldn't have such conflicts.
It took a long time but the Snyder Cut felt like a 100% golden age DC with all its character development and lore to me. Im happy Snyder had the chance to keep going and perhaps improve as he went.

And for such an ugly thing such as the Whedon version existing basically showed that even with its faults Snyder's past unaltered works had a consistant spirit and passion for an adaptation, sure its darker and more cynical (although it does contrast wonderfully with the kinder moments shown in the JLSC) but that kind of is where DC goes most of the time and it works.

Its not even a lesser of two evils scenario anymore the Snyder Cut is definitely good and the one we had then was the bad one, nuff said.

Omar Comming
Omar Comming
5 months ago

The cuck "everything is a problematic slippery slope dangerous precedent" media strikes again. How is the Snyder Cut rewarding anyone ffs? We initially got a butchered, ruined version of the movie that should never have been released in the first place.

If 2017 JL was a masterpiece that was done under the exact same circumstances, or rather if Snyder fucked it up and then Whedon came on and improved it, then it would make sense as fans would be bitching only because of the director, and not because the movie itself was bad, but the movie WAS BAD, and quite apparently, it didn't need to be bad…

Joshua Johnston
Joshua Johnston
5 months ago
Your Father
Your Father
5 months ago

8:09 I don’t think these two things are comparable. Sure, you should be entitled to good service, but there’s a difference between good service and a good film. A good film is much more subjective and hard to define, and good service can be easily measured by the quality of the food and the employees. A good film isn’t that simple and, considering that filmmaking is a form of art and storytelling, you can’t 100% claim that a film is good or bad because many people can interpret and view the film differently.

seafighter4
seafighter4
5 months ago

A better re-release should be celebrated. Hardly anything ever comes out perfect first try. So why are we so obsessed with the first, the 'canon' iteration of a story, when there are so many examples of how a story got ruined by a bad story addition. I for one would be absolutely for a revised version of already told stories. May that be the Mass Effect ending, the Star Wars prequels and sequels (for different reason and magnitudes) or the Game of Thrones TV series.

basheerbustami
basheerbustami
5 months ago

I slightly disagree with you on disney bringing back clone wars. What I and most fans wanted was for the series to be fully brought back and cover all missing arcs were never completed or in development. Instead what they did was they only did a season 7 clone wars finale whih introduced bad batch but mostly focused on the siege of mandalore. Great finale but still many missing great storylines like dark disciple, son of dathomir, utapau crystal crisis among many others.

Essero Eson
Essero Eson
5 months ago

So customers told a business what they wanted, the business did it and the customers are happy so now there are people who are unhappy that some customers got what they wanted instead of taking what they were given.
Really it's kind of like all restaurants used to charge you $10 bucks and let you choose from 5 or 6 unalterable meals and then one day a customer ordered a side of fries with their meal, the company did it and now there are other customers pissed off that they have had to eat what they are given and another group of customers got a special meal.
How about this instead? Hollywood at large embraces the internet and makes the changes needed to utilize that power instead of piss on it.
How about when you have a property that you know has a huge fan base, you listen to that fan base about what they want and let the non fans of that property experience what makes people a fan of that property, THEN you can go and fuck it up in the "Unfanned" vversion

Michael Palmer
Michael Palmer
5 months ago

This is probably one of the most reasonable videos I've seen about "toxic fans".

Anakin Skywalker
Anakin Skywalker
5 months ago

I think the Snyder cut was a crappy movie, but I do appreciate how they are listening to the fans somewhat.

Omni Viewer
Omni Viewer
5 months ago

Ask Sir Arthur Conan Doyle if this is really a "dangerous precedent". He'd probably scoff.

Anthony Laroya
Anthony Laroya
5 months ago

“Toxic” dceu fans that buy a product theyve been asking for vs toxic reylo fans defending a series/product that majority of the fan base isnt asking for. And yet disney supports those few bad apples but not the rest of the majority?

Companies have lost much in recent years. Dignity respect and consumer relationship being big ones.

Alfonso
Alfonso
5 months ago

GIVE YOUR CUSTOMERS WHAT YOUR CUSTOMERS WANT, jeeesus, how can people be so thick.

Angel Cortez
Angel Cortez
5 months ago

Do you want to know the lazy thing about this video? It's supposed to be a Snyder Cut video but half was for Star Wars and the other half for Disney…

Sombra Memer
Sombra Memer
5 months ago

Yes and no. If everyone wants a better version then yes. But the lesson that NEEDS to be learned is that you need to do it right the first time since if every movie studio made a bad version of a movie only to release a new better full cut of the film years later no one would care to watch since it can be exploited to the point where EVERY movie is now bad and the good versions are Streaming Service exclusives.

Paul Langland
Paul Langland
5 months ago

I don't think releasing the Snyder Cut was a bad move at all. In my opinion, the people who are arguing for this being a bad move are also the same people who have nothing better to talk about. The journalists who even commented on this feel like people that Hollywood or even more specifically Disney were catering too in the last few years. Disney especially was starting to release movies that more so told a message and not much a story and these journalists were praising it. These are also the same people who have spent like the last 4 years or so trying to the fans that The Last Jedi was a good movie and that the people who hate it are terrible people. In reality the large majority of Fans do not carry the same opinions as these journalists nor are they going to throw huge fits on twitter like the vocal minorities that get singled out in articles. It's become quite clear to me that people have spoken. They have spoken with their wallets and bank accounts and in reality, the all mighty dollar carries way more power than the opinions of a journalist who appears to be brown nosing to Hollywood.

CD Freedom
CD Freedom
5 months ago

I really enjoy the fair and thoughtful opinions you give in your videos. Thank you.

KVG 1988
KVG 1988
5 months ago

The toxic Fandom narrative emerging the past couple of weeks stinks of studio funded hit pieces to misdirect from the Joss Wheadon / Ray Fisher debacle.

Filip Agrippa
Filip Agrippa
5 months ago

Coca Cola tried to introduce a new Coke flavour and get rid of the original one back in the 80's. It was a disaster, everybody hated it and expressed their displeasure by boycotting it, so Coca Cola had to resume the production of the original one and the newer one slowly died out. And they made a ton of money, because everybody was talking about them as the company that listens to their consumers. Now tell me that listening to what your consumers want is wrong.

Those journalists are lying. It's disgusting. This attitude, insulting and slandering passionate fans of something is the exact reason that spawned movements like Gamergate. It wasn't a campaign to get Donald Trump into the White House, but a consumer revolt. And the same toxic journalists still talk about it like it was the Devil responsible for everything till this day and still act the same, causing creation of Fandom Menace and other similar movements along the way. xD

p.s. I hope I got the Coca Cola story right 😀

Reece Parriah
Reece Parriah
5 months ago
Insightful Entertainment
Insightful Entertainment
5 months ago

Zack Snyder's Justice League was the movie the studio promised fans would get back in 2017, even after Zack left the project. The movement's purpose upon its inception was to hold the studio accountable for its promise. Some people just can't take the L and instead immediately point at others.

Benjamin Sakyi
Benjamin Sakyi
5 months ago

Galactic kids next door 2021!!🔥🔥🔥

Dark O-man
Dark O-man
5 months ago

Another company where you will have “shills” telling critics to be happy they have anything at all is Games Workshop and Warhammer

Jeremy Allen
Jeremy Allen
5 months ago

Screw your "toxic fan" rhetoric, people still have a right to criticize garbage. The fact they redid large sections movie shows a creative integrity that you don't usually in today's toxic "lol, deal with it!" mindset

Ignite the Inferno
Ignite the Inferno
5 months ago

As someone who was very much a part of the #ReleasetheSnydercut Movement it did something few other fanbases have done. They decided to pair it with a worthy cause and raised literally hundreds of thousands of dollars for Suicide Prevention. The good that the movement has done far outweighs the potty mouths within the movement. I can't even recall the last time that any other franchise fanbase ever did something even comparable to that.

If Lucasfilm had released a mythical superior version of, say, Solo after a fan movement and saw such massive success, you better believe they'd capitalize on the success and veer into it harder than Disney constantly pooping out Live Action Remakes.

Hyper Nova
Hyper Nova
5 months ago

outcriers: this is just rewarding and encouraging toxic fans!

what those "toxic" fans asked of: can we please have a good movies

Marcela K. Preininger
Marcela K. Preininger
5 months ago

I want a Lucas & Filoni cut of the sequels trilogy

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